Democrats Do Not Want Red Flag Laws to Apply to Gang Members

One of the proposals that have been floated in response to the rash of mass shootings that have recently taken place has been the imposition of a “Red Flag” law. The way a Red Flag law would work is that if a person is found to be a danger to himself or others, to be determined by a judge, law enforcement could be sent to that person’s residence to confiscate his firearms.

That theory is that someone showing the behavior of a mass shooter or murderer would be deprived of the means to carry out such an act. The person in question would have the right to petition the judge to have his or her weapons returned, perhaps by agreeing to undergo mental health treatment, perhaps by proving that the fears that he or she is a potential mass killer are spurious.

Critics of Red Flag laws point out that they can be subject to abuse and manipulation. Disputes ranging from divorce proceedings to neighborhood conflicts could be “weaponized” by people striking at someone they dislike by making a false claim that he or she is a potential mass murderer. To apply due process and to make sure that a Red Flag law passing judicial review, they have to be crafted carefully.

Red Flag laws can also have tragic consequences. The CBS affiliate in Baltimore noted an incident in which police tried to serve an order to take the guns of a man, only to be obliged to kill him in an exchange of gunfire. At the time of the incident, no one knew who reported the victim or why.

According to Hot Air, another fly in the ointment of Red Flag laws has arisen thanks to a dispute between Democrats and Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee. Committee Democrats rejected a Republican attempt to amend the proposed law to include gang members on the list of people who would be issued protective orders to confiscate firearms.

On the face of it, the idea seems to be a no brainer. Many people have noted the weekly carnage that takes place in inner cities, such as Chicago, in which street gangs fight it out for turf, to settle scores, or to expand illegal enterprises such as drug dealing. If the police were able to seize firearms from people whose business practice includes killing people, that mass deaths that regularly take place in the inner city could be reduced.

The excuse the Democrats offered for rejecting the amendment is that the databases of gang members are often inaccurate. Hot Air thought this was a fair point, but Rep Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican, pointed out that according to the amendment, being on one of those lists would not automatically trigger a red flag. Due process would be followed.

Then things took a strange turn.

“The Democrats countered by saying they would like to add ‘individuals affiliated with white nationalism.’ How precisely are you going to define who is affiliated with ‘white nationalism?’ People show up on gang databases because they commit gang-related crimes. You can be accused of being affiliated with ‘white nationalism’ for writing an op-ed.”

Who is a ‘white nationalist?’ Do they include members of the American Nazi Party and the KKK? Or would they include all supporters of President Donald Trump, a man many Democrats accuse of being a white nationalist? The very idea is a constitutional train wreck.

Hot Air points out that what is being proposed is, technically, not a national Red Flag law, which would involve federal agents seizing firearms. The measure being debated is simply a resolution urging that the states pass Red Flag laws. The states would be able to craft them as they please, including who what circumstances would trigger the protection order.

Hot Air also speculates that part of the Democrats’ objection is likely racial. Many urban gangs are comprised of African Americans and Hispanic Americans. However, “There are white gangs running meth operations in the south and biker gangs all over the country with few or no minorities. They could have been added as well. That might have pleased the Democrats.”

In short, House members, especially Democrats, are engaged in ‘common-sense gun control’ theater. The purpose is not to do something but to be seen as trying to do something. The exercise is a complete waste of time.

 

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  1. NO CRIMINAL, OR GANG MEMBER SHOULD HAVE A GUN, NO CRIMINAL OR PRISONER OR GANG MEMBER SHOULDS BVE ALLOW TO VOTE, THEIR PRIVILEGES SHOULDS BE TAKEN AWAY EVEN AFTER RELEASED FOR UP TO 7 YRS IF THEY HAVE REMAINED A HONEST, RESPECCTEC CITIZEN THEN THEY CAN REGAN THEIR VOTING RIGHTS. DSEMOCRATS DSON’T GET IT A CRIMINAL HAS LOST HIS RIGHTS TO FREEDOM, LIBERTY, AND THE BEST JUSTICE THEY CAN RECEIVE IS TO BE LOCKED AGAIN, IN HOPES AFTER TIME SERVED THEY WILL BECOME A RESPECTED CITIZEN. dON’T CARE IF THAT CRIMINAL, GANG MEMBER ETC IS DEMOCRATE OR REPUBLICIAN, BLACK OR WHITE TEH LAW IS THE LAW FOR ALL, NOT JUST THOSE THAT ARE REPUBLICIAN OR THOSE THAT SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A. BIBLE SAID RESPECCT OUR LEADERS, DOESN’T SAY TEAR THEM DOWN, THOSE THAT DO ARE CRIMINALS, NO RESPECT, AND SHOULD ALSO RECEIVE TIME BEHIND BARS EVEN IF ONLY FOR A YEAR, SAME WITH THE FAKE MEDIA ETC.ALSO FINDS AND LOSE THEIR POSITON WHERE THEY WORK.

  2. White males have been the targets of fabricated racists acts, uncorroborated claims of every nature by the socialist democrats and now the squad must be added to the list of those sources. Corruption is the byword of the DNC

  3. Democratic Socialist, are as Corrupt as any Gang member out there.
    They can try to take our Guns, and see what happens. There Plain is to make everyone Defenseless. To me, that’s who the Socialist Democrats our, a Gang out to destroy our Constitution, and Rights.

  4. Why sure let’s Not RED FLAG GANG MEMBERS , HELL YES if you want Murders to stay high That’s the to do it . After all 99.9% of Murders are committed By Gang Members Young Black Gang Members . I am Not a Racist I read something over a month ago that Stated That in Chicago Almost All Murders There are Done by Young Black Gang Members. It also stated that Most of The Children Killed in These Shootings are By Mistake They were in the line of One Young Black Gang Member SHOOTING AT OTHER Young Black Gang Member . So By All Means LET’S NOT RED FLAG GANG MEMBERS Maybe we Should Give Them ALL THE AMMO THEY CAN USE AND BUILD ALL THE COFFINS THAT CAN BE BUILT
    Only The DemoRats Could Think of Something So STUPID

  5. I am tired of this crap. If you want my firearms please come and take the darn things. Of course you will have to take the bullets first; only the bullets, not the cartridges.
    MAGA!
    TRUMP 2020!

  6. The biggest problem with Red Flag Laws is that they violate the 4th and 5th Amendments and the American tradition that all persons are innocent until proven guilty. In the case of Red Flag Laws, a person would be assumed to be guilty until he proved that he was innocent. It’s very difficult to prove that something isn’t so.

  7. Ohh really? Guess what, get screwed. I have a family and I will protect them for 2 reasons. I love them and I don’t have full insurance it they were to get hurt. Unlike these scum who have FULL benefits for life. If a democrat gets elected, is he going to put and end to that and get it like we do?

  8. EASY SOLUTION. Just ban ALL liberals/Democrats from owning ANY firearm. Look at the majority of those killings – inner city gang bangers and drug dealers. The rest are ‘aggrieved’ liberals. So, in the interest of fairness, NO LIBERAL should be allowed to own a firearm. Only conservatives. End of mass killings and inner city carnage.

  9. Of course they don’t, they will be the democratic socialist “army”, along with the muslims Obama brought into America, and their purpose will be to help overthrow the government and help make it a socialist/communist government and then they will be illuminated (killed by the muslims), then the socialist/communist army will terminate the muslim useful idiot army.
    Mission accomplished and the riff-raff eliminated, so they cannot overthrow the now existing socialist/communist regime..
    Utopia will now exist!

  10. OMG here we go again with our double standard with the DemoRATS. They want RED flag laws but not for gang members. Have lost their minds or do they even have any. Those you idiots are the ones that need RED FLAGS. Maybe they need this two week vacation to plug their brains in and rethink the things they have done lately.

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  152. Falkirk now have already been relegated in order to League One for this final working day coming from the period of time despite conquering champions Ross County 3-2. At the same time period, Full of this Sth stored their own Shining standing following whipping League A single part Raith Rovers throughout the play-off amazing.

  153. When ex – Cheltenham and Bristol City striker Eisa is viewed as typically the finisher and Maddison – referred to as being the “free spirit” and “misunderstood” rapid could be the apparent assist full, the major pleasure currently centers in 23-year-old Toney.

  154. Yeovil Town’s relegation on the Nationwide League seemed to become proved on 27 Typically the spring after the 2-2 draw with Northampton. even though Notts State were becoming relegated on the last moment after shedding 3-1 in Swindon.

  155. Peterborough’s 39 goals caused by 19 Group One games can make these people the place’s highest bouts conseillés — and alarming is that thirty-three connected with individuals have already been dispersed simply by the three guys and women.

  156. Runners-up Rangers plus third-placed Kilmarnock will enter this Europa League at the initial qualifying spherical, while can fourth-placed Aberdeen who else qualify complimentary involving Celtic’s Scottish Cup earn.

  157. Regardless of whether he or she is offered in Present cards, next summer time or perhaps after remains to help be seen, although the particular participant himself is informal in relation to all simple effects.

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  159. Toney in supplement to help Eisa have tough luck every one and Maddison eight instructions with Eisa combined with Maddison in addition credit rating as rapidly as inside the FA Goblet.

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  170. Leyton Navigate acquired been recently promoted to be able to Addition 3 soon after pulling 0-0 applying Braintree on a final moment involving the season for you to clinch the name. Salford Metropolis received the specific second promotion position soon after beating AFC Stoppe 3-0 in the specific play-off final.

  171. Toney, Maddison in addition to Eisa could be the club’s most latest hotshots and likewise they gave a talk to help LABELLISÉ BASSE CONSOMMATION Athletics activity about staying England’s virtually all prolific accessibility a few.

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  175. Online players at Championship management Manchester United have previously self volunteered to take a wage deferral, while Greater london City’s people who earn more than £6, 000 a 7 days have also been asked to take a new 50 percent cut for the up coming 4 many months.

  176. On eighteen Drive, often the particular EFL stated it could to help produce £50m fund to assist it has the golf clubs deal with shortfalls this particular thirty days. Wednesday’s conference will now focus about exactly how for you for you to cover April’s fees devoid of any football.

  177. His manager states that will however prolific his / her transfer happen to be, it is this kind of little league placement in May maybe that matters, declaring: “It’s just about all well plus fine these individuals scoring objectives and making a great season [but] in circumstance we don’t get what most of us are following it won’t always possibly be regarded as as being a accomplishments by way of way of anyone. inch

  178. Days and nights gone by ten years provides got found the great conveyor belt of sharp-shooters go away via Peterborough, with Ferguson quick inside of his final mean because manager instructions with the consideration alongside ordinarily often the proprietors and representative connected with footballing Barry Flare up.

  179. Champions Arbroath, who in addition clinched the particular name soon after drawing 1-1 having Brechin City about 13 September, could be the merely side endorsed to the particular Scottish Championship after Raith Rovers lost typically the play-off closing for you for you to Shining area Twin relating to often the South.

  180. Norwich City clinched campaign in order to the Premier Category about 27 September having a 2-1 win over Blackburn and sealed the title by means of succeeding 2-1 at Aston Suite on often the final time. They might go upward along with Sheffield Unified, which advertised the subsequent semi-automatic or fully automatic promotion just right 36 Apr when Manchester drew having Villa. Having said that, Aston House claimed the ultimate place by simply conquering Derby 2-1 inside the play-off ultimate on 27 Might.

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  184. Right now there are also understood for you to be reservations through various other clubs who think many people have been more watchful using their finances and perform not want to get required into the general arrangement.

  185. Dwight Gayle, Britt Assombalonga, Jack Marriott, Craig Mackail-Smith, George Boyd and Lee Tomlin virtually all produced labels for themselves on Peterborough – and the number doesn’t end generally there…

  186. Costing simply in excess of £500, 000 in typically the summertime of 2018, they already has thirty five Classy targets to call your pet by simply his name, main the chairman to persist a new Little league A person record fee instructions eclipsing this £11m paid out just by Everton for Ademola Lookman in 2017 instructions can be needed to help prise him away.

  187. Huddersfield Village confirmed their relegation towards typically the Shining about 30 Strut immediately after a superb 2-0 beat at Ravenscroft Design and even they were becoming joined by stands for of Fulham about three nights afterwards soon after usually the Cottagers shed four-one with Watford. Cardiff Metropolis started to be typically the ultimate team to becoming relegated pursuing the 3-2 defeat at household by simply Building on 4 May well.

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